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Proceedings and Debates of the 1864 Constitutional Convention
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269
and offspring of the traitor their sustenance
for life, you will educate them to hate the Gov-
ernment under which they live; and believ-
ing so, and believing that it is at war with the
true interests of my country and of my State,
I am opposed to the amendment. Looking
at it in that light, and having no very strong
reasons w hy we should open the door for the
exercise of this power, I am unwilling to give
it the sanction of my vole.
Mr. BARRON. I rise for the purpose of call-
ing the previous question, I do not intern:
to sit here day after day, and listen to those
long speeches, when, if a member wishes to
be away a day or two you begin to talk
about docking his pay. I call tor the previ-
ous question.
The call for the previous question was sec-
onded.
The question was— " Shall the main ques-
tion be now put? "
Upon this question Mr. BERRY, of Prince
George's, called the yeas and nays, which
were ordered.
The question being then taken, by yeas and
nays, it resulted—yeas 43, nays 34—as follows:
Yeas—Messrs. Goldsborough, President ;
Abbott, Annan, Baker, Barron, Carter, Cun-
ningham, Cushing, Davis of Washington,
Dellinger, Ecker, Farrow, Galloway, Greene,
Hebb, Hopkins, Jones of Cecil, Keefer, Ken-
nard, Larsh, Mace, Markey, McComas, Mul-
likin, Murray, Negley, Noble, Nyman, Ridgely,
Robinette, Russell, Sands, Schlosser,
Sneary, Stirling, Stockbridge, Swope, Sykes,
Thomas, Thruston. Todd, Wickard, Wooden
—43.
Nays—Messrs, Berry of Baltimore county,
Berry of Prince George's, Billingsley, Black-
iston, Bond, Briscoe, Chambers, Clarke,
Crawford, Dail, Daniel, Davis of Charles,
Dennis, Duvall, Earle, Edelen, Harwood,
Henkle, Hollyday, Horsey, Johnson, Jones of
Somerset, King, Lee, Marbury, Mitchell, Mil-
ler Morgan, Parker, Parran, Pugh, Purnell,
Scott, Smith of Dorchester, Turner, Valliant,
Wilmer—34.
Pending the call of the yeas and nays, the
following explanations were made, by gen-
tlemen as their names were called :
Mr. BERRY, of Prince George's. I desire to
say in explanation of my vote, that if the call
for the previous question is sustained, it will
not only cut off all debate, but all amend-
ment. I do not desire that the debate shall
longer continue, but I do desire that this ar-
ticle may be perfected by amendment. I
therefore vote "no."
Mr. CLARKE. Before voting I should like
to explain my vote. There may be, and I
think there is, no disposition on the part of
the House to continue debate upon the pending
amendments. But the gentleman from Balti-
more city (Mr. Stirling) toeing the chairman
of the committee that made this report, is en-
titled to be heard upon it.
Mr. STIRLING, I will say to the gentleman
that I had intended to submit some remarks,
and this will cut me off, but I am glad of it.
Mr. CLARKE. Then I will say that it
was intimated by another gentleman from
Baltimore city, (Mr. Cushing,) that the
amendment was offered by his colleague,
(Mr. Stirling,) because this question was open
to various constructions. I intimated this
morning that when the proper time came I
intended to offer an amendment which would
remove all doubt as to the construction of
this provision. But if this demand fur the
previous question is sustained, it will be a
declaration on the part of the majority here
that it is their intention to prevent the mi-
nority from offering such amendments as will
clear this provision of the ambiguity which
some gentlemen have admitted is now in it,
I therefore vote ' ' no. "
Mr. PURNELL. Although this article and
the amendments to it have occupied two days
in discussion, yet I do not think the time has
been lost. I confess myself that I have been
edified and perhaps instructed, by the various
arguments upon this subject which the gen-
tlemen have presented to this Convention.
And I am unwilling to arrest the debate as
long as any light can be cast upon the sub-
ject. It is one of such great importance, in-
volving so high constitutional questions, and
so affecting the interests of the people, that
if anything further can be prevented to ena-
ble us to carry out the true spirit of the bill
of rights, I think that spirit of liberality
which should control this Convention, should
lead us to hear it, either in the way of argu-
ment, or in the way of amendments. With
that view I vote " no."
Mr. SANDS. I desire to explain my vote.
My explanation is simply this: I think more
speeches have been made by the opposition in
this House upon this question than have been
made by those in favor of it. If any gentle-
man of the opposition will tell me it is not
so, then I will vote. "no." But under the
impression that they have done the biggest
share of the talking upon this subject, and
have been fully and fairly heard, I shall vote
" aye,"
The main question was accordingly ordered
to be put.
The question was stated to be upon the
amendment of Mr, Clarke, to wit: To add
to the amendment of Mr. Stirling the follow-
ing words:
—"which forfeiture of estate shall only
continue during the life of the person at-
tainted."
Upon this question, Mr. CLARKE called for
the yeas and nays, which were ordered.
The question being then taken by yeas and
nays, it resulted—yeas 28; nays 52—as fol-
lows :
Yeas—Messrs. Belt, Berry of Prince
George's, Billingsley, Blackiston, Bond, Bris-


 
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