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Proceedings and Debates of the 1850 Constitutional Convention
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The gentleman from Baltimore, would lean
when he bad the,*enefit of larger experience
that the only safe and sure way to success, is b
a straight forward, plain, direct and honest coura
to the object candidly avowed. The crooked
tortuous path in which that gentleman travellei
occasionally crossed this straight track an
brought him in his view, and the gentleman wa
hence induced to think that he (Mr. G.) was als
out of line. It was only an optical illusion. I
the gentleman would march boldly, rightonward
disregarding the clamors of that large family i
Baltiraoic, alluded lu bj his colleague, or irom
any other quarter, hi« own intelligence woul
take him in the direct road.
Mr. GWINN asked if the gentleman would poin
out the direct course.
Mr. CHAMBERS. "Follow me." (a laugh.)
He said the gentleman from Frederick, [Mr
THOMAS,] had renewed the charge against thi
resolution, that it was an abstraction. He vind
cated it at length from this imputation, an
maintained that it was eminently practical. Tha
gentleman had indulged in an elaborate address
to the House, avowedly to convince them of the
great error they had committed by their vote o
sixty odd to seventeen, and yet concluded by
assuring us that the vote "amounted to nothing.'
It was very true, as stated that members of a
committee, from courtesy to a chairman, often
permitted him to report propositions they did no
approve. It often occurred too that members
presented propositions they did not mean to sanc
tion by their votes.
But in all such cases the fact was announced
and known, and the sole object was to bring the
House to a vote in which every member coulc
express his actual opinion. It was certainly the
first time in the experience of some years he had
ever heard it said that on the final passage of a
resolution by yeas and nays, the vote was no ev-
idence of opinion, and he was glad to have the
endorsement of the gentleman from Cecil, (Mr.
MCLANE,) who had so fully concurred in this
riew. He had no doubt there would be found
of the members voting on that proposition, no
more than seventeen, logo for the broad doctrine
of representation on the basis of numbers alone.
He repeated the ground he had heretofore urged
as to the cut bona. Two gentlemen on the Com-
mittee would agree to nothing till driven by the
House from this claim of a popular basis. When
that was disposed of, as it would be by passing
this resolution, there remained the alternatives
of compromise or the stafta enti ielum— the pre-
sent arrangement. Compromise was an indefi-
nite term. On that subject too the Committee
was a divided family. We had a compromise in
1836— the city of Baltimore had the "lion's
share." We are now to compromise again and
another " lion's share" is to be taken from what
was then left us. The House should indicate
their views in regard to this one most important
item in the compromise. The last vote decides
that a reduction must be made from the immense
number which would be given to the city by a
basil purely of numbers. What was to be the
limit? He supposed it must be to an extent

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which would avert the danger of brinirinir the
counties entirely under the control of the city
He illuitrated how this would be the case if no
limit was imposed. This amendment was ofler-
ed by him in Committee— it was now before the
House, and he would stand by it. If the House
thought it proper to make the limit that which
was allowed to the largest county, then they
should adopt this amendment; if they determin-
ed any other to be proper let it be made, and the
Committee will regard it as an instruction.

Mr. McLANE and Mr. OHAMBFII. «oid aaoh a

few words in explanation.
Mr. THOMAS stated, that he had considered
these resolutions as presenting merely a negative
question until yesterday. The amendment now
proposed by the gentleman from Kent, giving
Baltimore a specific number of representatives was
an affirmative question. So was the vote of yes-
terday, deciding that population shall not be the
basis of representation in the House of Delegate*
By that vote the House had fixed one principle ':
and if it should be decided that Baltimore shall
have a representation equal to the largest
county in the State, another principle will be
ixed.

He went on to state the parliamentary prac-
tice in relation to amendments and the manner
in which they might be introduced; and asserted
that any gentleman had a right to get up and
contradict to-day any position which he might
have taken yesterday; and even to record h»
vote in one way, and to argue in another. No
gentleman could be required to redeem any sup-
posed pledge contained in his vote of the day pre-

Mr. MCLANE explained.
Mr. JOHNSON asked if the gentleman from
Kent objected to going into committee of the
whole.

Mr. CHAMBERS said he would not object to
hat course. J

Mr. THOMAS resumed, explaining more fullv
is views as to the binding effect of the vote of a
gentleman in his future action. He adverted to
ne contemplated reforms which extended to the
Executive, the Judicial, and the Legislative de-
artments. It was intended to take away almost
11 power from the Executive; and he stated
hat he would not object to Ihis if to that reform
ere connected an extension of power to the
egislative branch. He stated that he repre-
ented a large population, and he would not
edge them or himself to the course they should
ake when the Constitution was presented to
hem for acceptance. There might be provision*
ngrafted in it, such as would compel him to
veins own vote against it, and to admonish the
>eople from the hills and the house-tops to reject

He concluded with some further remarks
enerally reiterating what he had previously said
to the inefficiency of votes given on isolated
uestious to stand as a true exponent of the final
ote of gentlemen on the report as a whole. He
onsidered himself as entirely free to move to
mend the report hereafter by the introduction of



 

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