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upon checking that he had committed a murder. So the question is
not, really, shooting looters. It's should people who are fleeing justice,
where the policeman doesn't know the severity of the crime, be
stopped by any means available? And I say, "Yes, they should. "
Q. You began by saying you don't think that looters should ever
be shot and now you say.... (remainder garbled).

A. That's right. I don't think that looters should be shot, if they
surrender. The thrust of these reports is that I have said a police-
man should come upon a store where a man's looting and take out
a gun and shoot him. But I don't think anyone is justified in shooting
anyone for any crime. A policeman is there to make an arrest, not
to kill people.

Q. But if the looter flees, you'd then say the policeman should shoot?
A. It's up to the judgment of the policeman. Certainly if I saw a
twelve-year-old boy running out of a grocery store with a box of
cereal, I wouldn't shoot him. But if I saw a man running out of a
building, and I saw someone lying on the floor inside that may have
been killed and the man wouldn't stop, and I were a policeman, I
wouldn't hesitate to shoot him.

Q. What about if he were a grown man running with a pair of shoes?
A. Well, I think, again, it depends on whether you think the shoes
are all he took. How can you know that? Do you shoot him with a
pair of shoes or with a diamond ring? These are matters that can't
be generalized or assessed or laid down in specific guidelines, but
must depend upon the training and intelligence of the individual
law enforcement officer who's on the scene.

(Baltimore Police)

Q. Governor, Mr. Wallace stated yesterday that police were made
second-class citizens in this State and this country. This seems to be
fair, including your own police department and your own Police
Commissioner, Mr. Pomerleau, in Baltimore and recent officers who
were dismissed for minor abusive language against individuals, and
again the two officers who were chastised and disciplined with a
year's probation because they dared to criticize the electronic media
and the Police Commissioner. How do you feel about that, sir?

A. Next question.

(Republican Convention)

Q. Governor, after you arrive in Miami this weekend, will you again
try to meet with Governor Romney and Governor Rhodes to work
out a voting bloc, so to speak?