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Q. Who else passed down ? A. Dr. W. and the other gentlemen; they passed by
the privy, and Dr. W.
said it was there he kept his valuables.
Q. You stated in your direct examination that Dr. W seemed to lead them
away from the privy? A.
Mr. Clark and the others all went past the privy ; I saw Mr. Kirgsley in
the visits there.
Q. Was this before or after you say that the Dr. said " This is m~ yprivate
privy? A. I don't recollect.
Q. You say some one remarked, here are other rooms ? A. Mr. Kingsley said,
11 Here is another room."
There was a dark corner in the room.
Q You stated that you were standing in part of your premises, and saw Dr.
W. at work? A. Yes
Q. You say you were watching Dr. W. ? A. Yes. '
Q. After you left, did you go back to watch him again ? A. Yes.
Q. You went back then for what purpose; for the purpose of keeping an eye
upon him ? A. I then went
down the laboratory stairs to hear if the bll would pull.
Q., How many bells are there in the house ? A. Three bells, fixed in
different places; they ring in diffe-
rent places.
Q. The bell was rung that evening at 4 o'clock ? A. I don't recollect.
Q. Did you not swear before the Coroner's Jury that you did not see the Dr.
from the time those gentle-
men went to make a search until 6 o'clock that evening ? A. It is very
likely I did, because I made a mis-
take about the turkey. [Immense laughter.]
Court. This you say was the same mistake ? Witness. Yes.
Mr. Sobier. Now let us know how long after was it before you went back with
the turkey ? [Laughter.]
A. It was about 6 o'clock.
Q. What did you do after you got home ? A. I stepped into the kitchen and
took my tea.
Q. You say your wife asked you before, where you were going ? A: Yes; I
said I was going to the
lodge.
Q. You did not try the. doors until you were going to the lodge ? A. No. `
Q Did you try them after you came from the lodge ? A . I can't say; I got
home near 11 o'clock. Dr.
Webster told me, that night, that he wanted no fires during the week.
Q. Did you wash anything for him that week ? A. I said I used to wash
glasses for him; he used always
to leave the glasses after him for me to wash ; I don't think he moved the
glasses from his able.
Q Did you not swear that you heard footsteps in that room on Wednesday, a
little after 1 o'clock ? A. I
don't recollect.
Q. Did you not swear at the Coroner's Inquest that you went there about 9
o'clock, and a little after
heard footsteps or noise ? A. I don't recollect that I did say so.
Q. For what purpose were you watching the. Dr. when you were listening on
the Tuesday ? A. $e told
me he should want no fires that week ; I knew Dr. W. always wanted hot
fires in his room ; he came there
early on Wednesday morning, and I thought i$ very strange that he should be
there without a fire in his
room so cold a morning.
Q Did you say before the Coroner's Inquest that you heard any one in the
laboratory, before you went
in there on Monday ? A. I can't say.
Q. When you were watching Dr. W: on Wednesday before you went out, had you
any reference to this
business about Dr. P. ? A. I had.
Q Now I want to know that if on Monday your suspicions were excited,
whether you called'tti mind
what occurred between you and Dr. Webster on the previous Saturday? A. I do
not know that I thought
of them on the moment, but I was thinking of them all the time.
Q. Do you say that you had suspicions of Dr. W. on Alonday morning? A. Yes.
Q.' How long did you wait ? A. I waited until I heard his footsteps; I then
heard him drag something
along-the floor.
Q. To what direction did you hear it move, or towards where did you hearths
dragging? A. I heard it
move on the floor towards the coal-bin ; I afterwards saw him move towards
the furnace, on looking
through.
Q. Had you any idea of his burning anything there ? A. I was not thinking
about the burning.
. Q. This increased your suspicions ? A. Yes.
Q Where did you go after this ? A I went into the room, and there was great
heat there. I thought
the heat was great.
Q. How did you know the heat was great ? A. I put my hand to the wall, and
the wall was clot.
Q. How high was the flue ? A. I think the furnace is about three feet hig.
Q. That was the place where the heat came out of? A. Yes.
Q. Did you not uncover the furnace ? A. No.
Q. Now you said that in the top of that furnace there were some crucibles ?
A. Yes, and mineral stones.
Q. You spoke of another furnace ; were there mineral stones there ? A. Yes.
Q. How were they ? A. They were all in papers at the time. Q. Did you look
into the ashes ? A.
No.
Q. Did you look into the coal hole ? A. No.
Q, You stated in your direct that you looked into the water, with the
expectation of finding Dr., P.'s body
there ? A. Yes.
Q. How many keys had you belonging to that building ? A Sixteen I believe.
'Q. Did you try to get into the privy that afternoon you stated ? A. I did
not.
Q. Have you got closets in the College ? A. Yes, but no locks on them.
Q. Was not this a very common sort of lock upon the privy ? A. Yes, I
should think it was S very emm-
mon sort of lock.
Q. Did you not try to get into the privy ? A. I did not.
Q. Did you go home that night ? A. I did not.
Q. Where didyou go ? A. I went to a cotillionparty. [Loud laughter.]
Q 'You statedtbat you hadsuspicions about the privy, and thatyou did not go
into it, but yet went to a
cotillion party ? [Immoderate.roars of laughter.] A. Yes.
Q Did you notice any blood at that time ? 'A. I noticed some blood on the
stairs, and I tasted one of
the drops with my finger ; I saw spots in the laboratory.
Q: To whom clidyou first communicate the matter on Tuesday? A. To. Dr.
Hanifen, neat to Mr.
Thompson.,
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